kingme
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Post by kingme on Apr 2, 2007 21:12:40 GMT -5
I highly doubt your problem is direct X related.
Without knowing what temperature your GPU is running at, we/you can't tell if heat is the cause of your screwy graphics.
It could be voltage related also, if you barely have enough power to run it to begin with, surely the power demand while stressing the card during gaming will do weird things ya know.
Like we were talking about, your power supply is rated at 300W, did you use the "Y" power adapter that came with the card? 6 pin to the GFC, the other two ends connect to 2 separate leads off of you power supply.
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Post by call911 on Apr 2, 2007 23:38:28 GMT -5
Yeah they were labelled p2 an p3 from the power supply i'm kind thinking your right about the power supply being to low giving it recommends a 425. I was constantly checking the heat by feeling the gc an sometimes it did'nt feel to terribly warm.Thinking just to be safe though to take it off an put the other on until i can put a better PS an fan on.
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Post by heatman on Apr 3, 2007 15:10:04 GMT -5
ps will definently cause that problem good call king i would aleast get a 500 watt they are getting cheaper and cheaper.
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Post by call911 on Apr 3, 2007 16:26:03 GMT -5
Yeah i called CompUSA today an they well won't help with hardly anything over the phone i could'nt even get a price check on a PS without the guy referring me back to tech dept, guess money talks BS walks. I'm pretty sure its just a matter of pluggin the correct wires to the correct loc with the PS an i think i could manage that myself ;D, an go fig BIS released a beta patch today with the new view distance stuff too an now my 8800 is off the pc
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Post by Arooke on Apr 3, 2007 16:50:09 GMT -5
911 you are having more problems with that comp than any1 i know LOL. Well your in luck, ive got an idea!!!..
Take your comp to the front yard sit it on the ground, put a sat on it. Go back into the house, grab your pop corn go to the front window and hit the detanator!!!!! KAPOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
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Post by Robapps1 on Apr 3, 2007 17:37:46 GMT -5
there are alot of of 3rd party monitoring software i know AMD and Asus have really good ones But only work with their products I am sure if you search your Manufacturers site they can either link you to or have one in the database somewhere...
Rob
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Post by Robapps1 on Apr 3, 2007 17:47:41 GMT -5
WAIT A MINUTE you are running a 8800 off of a 300watt PS are you crazy you may have blown it already..... When they say its min.requirements for power is 450 then you should have ATLEAST 600 watts to compenesate for the other components drawing power:
cpu will run about 65watts mobo about 50-80 watts ram about 10watts per stick Gcard YIKES about 250 - 500 watts depending on complexity of card HDD about 40 watts CD drives etc... about 20 watts
SO you can see the more you have it will add up real quick and if you get a INTERNAL SURGE of the Power Supply trying to make the demand and cant do it well then BOOOOOMMMM better be looking for a whole new system.... Now the good thing about electricity is that it will fry the smallest capacitor it can first so unfortunately if you start to get Windows Errors or POST errors Guaranteed and I mean Guarnateed you have fried a RAM CARD or a RAM SLOT.... Get it out of there now til you can get a OVERSIZED POWER SUPPLY in there...
My x1650's (2) run about 500watts themselves due to OC'ing and run about 55C GPU TEMP.... thats a lil warm but tolerable, anything over 60-65C is where you will get into trouble.. CRASH, BUT I AM pretty sure your BIOS has TEMP settings internally to monitor the temps and if it goes over the temp it will shutdown automatically .... But WATTS and VOLTS only can be monitored by the mobo VIA the CPU....
ROB
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Post by call911 on Apr 3, 2007 18:33:00 GMT -5
yeah i havnt fried anything yet TG but i did put the other GC(7600NVidia0 back on like i said can't do much with 8800 til i get like you said a higher rated PS. One i got now is a Bastac300w. i know these pricks just want me to come in an spend a 129 for service/install on god knows how much the PS is. An yeah Arookie i'm not there yet, sometimes i feel like it though.
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Post by heatman on Apr 3, 2007 18:40:37 GMT -5
id say i need to up my ps to using a 7800 gtx xfx with a 480 watt dual rail.4 sticks of ram 512 amd 4000- 2- 100gig in 0 raid how much you think i need rob ill get it.thanks
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Post by Arooke on Apr 4, 2007 15:46:53 GMT -5
Ive got a 550w thermaltake PS, and i havent really checked my temps too much yet, everything seems to be running just fine for now so i think im good, i just have a couple little bugs i need to get worked out. Ive even got 1 so far that boggling the mind of Mr. Stone lol.
So Stone put "YOUR" PC problems aside and fix mine LOL j/j You need to get that thing going bro!!
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Post by Robapps1 on Apr 4, 2007 18:47:07 GMT -5
Heat with the 7800 it recommends a 250watt PS JUST for the Gcard so anywheres around a 500-or bigger would be suffice... As for the 8800 series or r600's I would definately go for a BIG PS atleast 750- 1000 watter, if you spent that much on a Gcard believe me you'll want to protect it...
Heres a lil tip for everyone :::
the GHZ your CPU(processor) is running at you need atleast HALF of it in RAM to run it with NO Bottlenecking
ie.. 4.0 GHZ needs 2.0Ghz of RAM to run optimal but you also have to take in account the MHZ = FSB ratio to to prevent Bottlenecking so if your CPU is running at a 800mhz Front Side Bus then to avoid bottlenecking you should have 800mhz RAM ..... I know I know WTF all the lil shiat you gotta take into account when building a new PC , it is a lil tedious but bottlenecking can cause system crashes, high temps, and even complete system failure...
Have any more Q's Fire away..
Rob
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Post by SgtO42 on Apr 5, 2007 8:37:10 GMT -5
Rob after you get everyone up and running with streamlined systems, we'll destroy JO to the point that Jaspur will hang up his WW2 helmet and camo thong and call it a day........
Whats a good program for everyone to use that gives temperature readings...?
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Post by Robapps1 on Apr 5, 2007 15:13:33 GMT -5
See thats where it gets tricky certain CPU, Ram , temp software only work with certain component manufacturers... See I have a ASUS motherboard (always have had ASUS mobos) and they use ASUS Probe.... its awesome...
So you would have to pretty much find a software to meet your specific needs .... But if thats all you need to find out what you are running at(temp) simply restart your PC and goto your BIOS and in there it will tell you TEMP's, RPM's of your fans, Volts, etc... But let your PC run for a bit before checking.. But if you want a complete system check I would reccomend SPEEDUPMYPC.com it is 29.95 but you can do a basic scan for FREE on their site....
Also you can buy HARDWARE monitors that fit into a CDrom slot they are the best to track temps.... I have Probe and Temp guages on my case to let me know when to kill it.... I have my temps set to 65C (CPU) -AMD's run hotter than Intels due to the Multiplers in AMD CPU's.... I have my RAM set to 55C (depends on OC'ing).... And i have my fans running at 4000rpm...
ANymore Q's???/
Rob
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Post by heatman on Apr 5, 2007 15:22:13 GMT -5
rob i was thinking of going with a fx-57 to replace 4000-64 Q is is my power supply going to be enough 480 neo and am i going to see enough difference i mean in the upgrade to justify im planning on staying with my current system yr or 2 thanks.
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Post by kingme on Apr 5, 2007 15:35:52 GMT -5
See I have a ASUS motherboard (always have had ASUS mobos) and they use ASUS Probe.... its awesome... Yep, same brand here but I have the A8N-SLI32 which is the runt of the litter ASUS PC Probe to check MB stuff and I use the Nvidia NV monitor to check GPU temps and related stuff.
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